[TI] Allegati Questions

[Laura Johnson]

not all of them have the same reference number.  I have found several 
that are very distinctly different and also some that do not have a 
number at all on the cover page

Terry Skibiski wrote:
> The allegati records in my experience have the same reference number as the marriage record.  So, if you have a copy of the marriage certificate and it is number 156, then the allegatti should also be number 156.  That might help a little in your search.  I have a feeling that sometimes the original records may have become detached and separated from the original book, with the loose pages just shoved in a book in random order, and that is why they sometimes do not follow in date sequence on the microfilm; they got filmed however they were placed in the book.  Just a guess, obviously, but it seems logical.
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> Terry
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> --- On Tue, 10/27/09, Laura Johnson <rngade57 at madisontelco.com> wrote:
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>> From: Laura Johnson <rngade57 at madisontelco.com>
>> Subject: Re: [TI] Allegati Questions
>> To: terminiimerese at comunesofitaly.org
>> Date: Tuesday, October 27, 2009, 5:39 PM
>> John
>>
>> It appears that they are created for every marriage
>> although I have found a few that were evidently missed when
>> the LDS filmed them.
>> No index at all.  They are usually preceeded by a
>> cover page.  Some of the cover pages will tell you the
>> year of the marriage and/or have a number on it that
>> corresponds to the marriage document in the marriage films
>> BUT NOT ALL DO.  Nor are they always in number
>> order.  They may be totally out of order
>> I872 was on that film.  I ordered it to obtain a
>> marriage document for someone in my tree a while back. 
>> I do not presently have the film in St Louis nor do I have
>> digital images of it yet.
>>
>> Yes, there are birth and death allegati records as well -
>> again - some births and deaths DID NOT have allegati records
>> for them and I have found a few for documents that were
>> missing from the original birth documents that have helped
>> fill in the gaps.  Some of them have already been
>> transcribed into the database for the earlier years.  I
>> have found some documents.
>>
>> The allegati records were the proof that the couple were
>> eligible to be married.  They contained the births
>> documents of the couple (or baptismal if the person was born
>> before the civil records started in 1820), deaths of
>> previous spouses, deaths of parents and of the grandfathers,
>> marriage banns, marriage contracts, residency statements,
>> marriage banns from other towns (if the bride or groom were
>> from somewhere else).
>>
>> John Mascari wrote:
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>>> Are Allegati documents created for EVERY
>>>       
>> matrimonio/marriage record?
>>     
>>> Is there an INDEX within the Allegati films for each
>>>       
>> year?
>>     
>>> I ordered an Allegati film 2017215 Item 1 from my
>>>       
>> FHC.  The film is labelled Allegati 1871-1875.
>>     
>>> I was looking for additional information associated
>>>       
>> with marriages that I already found within the TI Database.
>>     
>>> I could not find an index at the beginning or end of
>>>       
>> the year on the film.  I also did not find records for
>> 1872,
>>     
>>> 1873, or 1874 on the film.  I do not see another
>>>       
>> film associated with those years.  Does anyone know if
>> the records for 1872-1874 are not filmed or damaged?
>>     
>>> I also find birth and death records that do not appear
>>>       
>> to be associated with marriages contained within the
>> Allegati records.
>>     
>>> Why would these be recorded in two places?  Can
>>>       
>> someone explain the primary purpose of the Allegati records
>>     
>>> (besides being very useful in finding great
>>>       
>> genealogical information)?
>>     
>>> Your assistance would be greatly appreciated. 
>>>       
>> Thank you.
>>     
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