[TI] Allegati Questions

[Terry Skibiski]

The allegati records in my experience have the same reference number as the marriage record.  So, if you have a copy of the marriage certificate and it is number 156, then the allegatti should also be number 156.  That might help a little in your search.  I have a feeling that sometimes the original records may have become detached and separated from the original book, with the loose pages just shoved in a book in random order, and that is why they sometimes do not follow in date sequence on the microfilm; they got filmed however they were placed in the book.  Just a guess, obviously, but it seems logical.

Terry

--- On Tue, 10/27/09, Laura Johnson <rngade57 at madisontelco.com> wrote:

> From: Laura Johnson <rngade57 at madisontelco.com>
> Subject: Re: [TI] Allegati Questions
> To: terminiimerese at comunesofitaly.org
> Date: Tuesday, October 27, 2009, 5:39 PM
> John
> 
> It appears that they are created for every marriage
> although I have found a few that were evidently missed when
> the LDS filmed them.
> No index at all.  They are usually preceeded by a
> cover page.  Some of the cover pages will tell you the
> year of the marriage and/or have a number on it that
> corresponds to the marriage document in the marriage films
> BUT NOT ALL DO.  Nor are they always in number
> order.  They may be totally out of order
> I872 was on that film.  I ordered it to obtain a
> marriage document for someone in my tree a while back. 
> I do not presently have the film in St Louis nor do I have
> digital images of it yet.
> 
> Yes, there are birth and death allegati records as well -
> again - some births and deaths DID NOT have allegati records
> for them and I have found a few for documents that were
> missing from the original birth documents that have helped
> fill in the gaps.  Some of them have already been
> transcribed into the database for the earlier years.  I
> have found some documents.
> 
> The allegati records were the proof that the couple were
> eligible to be married.  They contained the births
> documents of the couple (or baptismal if the person was born
> before the civil records started in 1820), deaths of
> previous spouses, deaths of parents and of the grandfathers,
> marriage banns, marriage contracts, residency statements,
> marriage banns from other towns (if the bride or groom were
> from somewhere else).
> 
> John Mascari wrote:
> > Are Allegati documents created for EVERY
> matrimonio/marriage record?
> > Is there an INDEX within the Allegati films for each
> year?
> > 
> > I ordered an Allegati film 2017215 Item 1 from my
> FHC.  The film is labelled Allegati 1871-1875.
> > I was looking for additional information associated
> with marriages that I already found within the TI Database.
> > I could not find an index at the beginning or end of
> the year on the film.  I also did not find records for
> 1872,
> > 1873, or 1874 on the film.  I do not see another
> film associated with those years.  Does anyone know if
> the records for 1872-1874 are not filmed or damaged?
> > 
> > I also find birth and death records that do not appear
> to be associated with marriages contained within the
> Allegati records.
> > Why would these be recorded in two places?  Can
> someone explain the primary purpose of the Allegati records
> > (besides being very useful in finding great
> genealogical information)?
> > 
> > Your assistance would be greatly appreciated. 
> Thank you.
> > 
> > 
> >       
> > _______________________________________________
> > TerminiImerese mailing list
> > TerminiImerese at comunesofitaly.org
> > http://comunesofitaly.org/mailman/listinfo/terminiimerese_comunesofitaly.org
> > 
> >   
> 
> _______________________________________________
> TerminiImerese mailing list
> TerminiImerese at comunesofitaly.org
> http://comunesofitaly.org/mailman/listinfo/terminiimerese_comunesofitaly.org
>