[TI] Pansica/Panzica

[Phyllis Grembi]

Toni,

I have a copy of the pamphlet which was written in 1978 by Nacy Panzica.  It does mention Chicago.  Would you like me to delve deeper into the names you have mentioned?

Phyllis

-----Original Message-----
>From: Toni Panzica <t.panzica at hotmail.com>
>Sent: May 31, 2009 5:10 PM
>To: terminiimerese at comunesofitaly.org
>Subject: Re: [TI] Pansica/Panzica
>
>
>Laura,
>Thank you. I am back to connecting dots again! 
>Toni
>
>----------------------------------------
>> Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 10:16:34 -0500
>> From: rngade57 at madisontelco.com
>> To: terminiimerese at comunesofitaly.org
>> Subject: Re: [TI] Pansica/Panzica
>>
>> And that looks like it probably isn't correct at all. If you look at
>> Cosimo's marriage document, his mother is Ignazia LoPresti who is
>> deceased at the time of the marriage.
>>
>> The death document is transcribed correctly.......except that it should
>> have included the age of 37 in the notes column. I believe that the
>> death document is incorrect based on his marriage document.
>>
>> Remember that the death documents are the LEAST reliable of the
>> records. This is because most of the people reporting these deaths of
>> older people were NOT present at the birth so they don't have first hand
>> knowledge of the birth.
>>
>> But in the case of the birth documents, it is usually a family member -
>> father, grandmother, sister of the mother or father - who reports the
>> birth and are usually present when the birth took place.
>>
>> Marriage documents are more reliable than the death documents because
>> they had to prove their age either by their birth if they were born
>> after 1819 or by their baptism if their birth was prior to 1820.
>>
>> But just because it is a birth or marriage document, does not mean it is
>> free of errors. We have found plenty of them and I try to notate those
>> in the database when it becomes apparent that there is an error. I also
>> try to notate discrepancies in ages, names etc when we find them
>>
>>
>> Toni Panzica wrote:
>>> Laura,
>>>
>>> I believe he is Antonino Pansica married to Stefana Caruso. I found them on the death certificate for their son Cosimo who died in 1859. That is the only record I find for them, so for lack of confirmation it's not etched in stone yet. I need to take a good look at other Antonino's married to LoPresti, Campagna, Sasso.
>>>
>>> If you have any insight, it would be greatly appreciated.
>>>
>>> Thanks, Toni
>>>
>>> ----------------------------------------
>>>
>>>> Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 06:38:19 -0500
>>>> From: rngade57 at madisontelco.com
>>>> To: terminiimerese at comunesofitaly.org
>>>> Subject: [TI] Pansica/Panzica
>>>>
>>>> Toni
>>>>
>>>> Who is your 3G grandfather? Tell us what you know about him. Maybe
>>>> someone else can help you connect the dots
>>>>
>>>> Toni Panzica wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> At the moment I have not been able to get past my 3G-grandfather Pansica in the TI database. I have seen that there are Pansica's in the San Nicola di Bari Baptism record,(thanks to you), so if I can't connect the dots, I will have to consider that my line came from a neighboring town.
>>>>>
>>>>> Toni
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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