[TI] Corso name in Termini

[jrbkcastro at att.net]

  Thanks Laura...will do....

Joe Castro
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From: Laura Johnson <rngade57 at madisontelco.com>
>
> no Castro's
> 
> you all of the baptisms on the website
> http://www.termini-imerese.org/SanNicolodiBari/SanNicola-35.htm
> 
> jrbkcastro at att.net wrote:
> >   Fr. Delisi,
> >
> > if it wouldn't be too much trouble, could you tell me if there were any Castro
> > names in the 1542-48 baptismal records?... The Castro name is on the list of
> Sephardic Jews removd from Spain in the 16th century;it is possible that is 
the origin of the Castro's in TI. I have traced the name back in TI to at least 
the late 1700's. but am wondering if they came much earlier....Thanks  best 
> wishes...
> >
> > Joe Castro
> > -------------- Original message ----------------------
> > From: "Fr. Anthony Delisi" <franthony at trappist.net>
> >   
> >> There are five names in the Baptismal rocords of 1542-48 with the name
> >> Corso.
> >>
> >> PAX. fr. Anthony Delisi
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: terminiimerese-bounces at comunesofitaly.org
> >> [mailto:terminiimerese-bounces at comunesofitaly.org] On Behalf Of Thomas
> >> Corso, PhD
> >> Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 4:03 PM
> >> To: terminiimerese at comunesofitaly.org
> >> Subject: Re: [TI] Corso name in Termini
> >>
> >> Dear TI group, I have an academic challenge for you all.
> >>
> >> I would really like to have the more critical members of our group
> >> securitize my logic and let me know what parts of my logic and
> >> assumptions you disagree with or if you can suggest more accurate
> >> estimates.  
> >>
> >> I apologize for the scientist part of me, but Last night I did an
> >> internet search of all the Corso records in the Termini database between
> >> 1820 and 1910.  There are now over 4000 records.  (Although I did this
> >> for Corso's, I am extending the logic for any family from Termini).
> >>  
> >> So to estimate how many different Corso families there were in Termini
> >> during this time, I limited the search to how many male Corso's got
> >> married in this time span and there were 168.  (Please don't ask me how
> >> long it took me to counts these, my wife thought I was nuts.)
> >>
> >> Since this number spans about 3 generations and a large number of these
> >> families left Termini and moved to Palermo, northern Italy, the U.S. and
> >> other places after 1850 (at least part of my Corso line moved to Palermo
> >> in 1850), I then looked only at about one generation of names (30
> >> years), limiting it to between 1820 and 1850.  The number of male Corso
> >> marriages was 41 in this 30 year span, so this is my estimate of how
> >> many Corso Families there were in Termini in the mid 1800's.  
> >>  
> >> I noticed that on average, each family produced about 8-12 kids, but due
> >> to cholera only about 4 of them ever lived long enough to marry and thus
> >> there were only about 2 males that lived long enough to carry the family
> >> name forward per generation.  I would then estimate (going at about 30
> >> years per generation) that there would have been about 80 Corso families
> >> by 1880 and 160 by 1910.  Add these together and we have 280 total
> >> (during this 3 generation period).  I only found 168, the difference
> >> implying that about 112 families left Termini during this time.
> >>  
> >> Going the other direction, my estimate is that these 40 families in the
> >> mid 1800's are actually the extension of about 20 families living in
> >> Termini around 1820.  If my logic is correct, then there would be about
> >> 10 Corso families in the late 1700's and about 5 in the mid 1700's.  
> >>
> >> I am only guessing, but I put forth the hypothesis that there was a
> >> single Corso family in Termini around 1600.  This would make all Termini
> >> Corso's no father apart than maybe 12th to 15th Cousins.  I also have
> >> reason to believe, based on what I have read that family names did not
> >> become common until around 1500-1600.
> >>
> >> I just went out on a limb here and I think I hear the branch cracking.
> >> I am not a historian and I am very much outside my field of expertise,
> >> but let me know your thoughts about my logic here.  I am hoping someone
> >> out there that actually does know what they are talking about could shed
> >> light on my ideas and set me straight.
> >>
> >> Tom  
> >>
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