[TI] Corso name in Termini

[Laura Johnson]

no Castro's

you all of the baptisms on the website
http://www.termini-imerese.org/SanNicolodiBari/SanNicola-35.htm

jrbkcastro at att.net wrote:
>   Fr. Delisi,
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> if it wouldn't be too much trouble, could you tell me if there were any Castro
> names in the 1542-48 baptismal records?... The Castro name is on the list of
> Sephardic Jews removd from Spain in the 16th century;it is possible that is the origin of the Castro's in TI. I have traced the name back in TI to at least the late 1700's. but am wondering if they came much earlier....Thanks  best wishes...
>
> Joe Castro
> -------------- Original message ----------------------
> From: "Fr. Anthony Delisi" <franthony at trappist.net>
>   
>> There are five names in the Baptismal rocords of 1542-48 with the name
>> Corso.
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>> PAX. fr. Anthony Delisi
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: terminiimerese-bounces at comunesofitaly.org
>> [mailto:terminiimerese-bounces at comunesofitaly.org] On Behalf Of Thomas
>> Corso, PhD
>> Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 4:03 PM
>> To: terminiimerese at comunesofitaly.org
>> Subject: Re: [TI] Corso name in Termini
>>
>> Dear TI group, I have an academic challenge for you all.
>>
>> I would really like to have the more critical members of our group
>> securitize my logic and let me know what parts of my logic and
>> assumptions you disagree with or if you can suggest more accurate
>> estimates.  
>>
>> I apologize for the scientist part of me, but Last night I did an
>> internet search of all the Corso records in the Termini database between
>> 1820 and 1910.  There are now over 4000 records.  (Although I did this
>> for Corso's, I am extending the logic for any family from Termini).
>>  
>> So to estimate how many different Corso families there were in Termini
>> during this time, I limited the search to how many male Corso's got
>> married in this time span and there were 168.  (Please don't ask me how
>> long it took me to counts these, my wife thought I was nuts.)
>>
>> Since this number spans about 3 generations and a large number of these
>> families left Termini and moved to Palermo, northern Italy, the U.S. and
>> other places after 1850 (at least part of my Corso line moved to Palermo
>> in 1850), I then looked only at about one generation of names (30
>> years), limiting it to between 1820 and 1850.  The number of male Corso
>> marriages was 41 in this 30 year span, so this is my estimate of how
>> many Corso Families there were in Termini in the mid 1800's.  
>>  
>> I noticed that on average, each family produced about 8-12 kids, but due
>> to cholera only about 4 of them ever lived long enough to marry and thus
>> there were only about 2 males that lived long enough to carry the family
>> name forward per generation.  I would then estimate (going at about 30
>> years per generation) that there would have been about 80 Corso families
>> by 1880 and 160 by 1910.  Add these together and we have 280 total
>> (during this 3 generation period).  I only found 168, the difference
>> implying that about 112 families left Termini during this time.
>>  
>> Going the other direction, my estimate is that these 40 families in the
>> mid 1800's are actually the extension of about 20 families living in
>> Termini around 1820.  If my logic is correct, then there would be about
>> 10 Corso families in the late 1700's and about 5 in the mid 1700's.  
>>
>> I am only guessing, but I put forth the hypothesis that there was a
>> single Corso family in Termini around 1600.  This would make all Termini
>> Corso's no father apart than maybe 12th to 15th Cousins.  I also have
>> reason to believe, based on what I have read that family names did not
>> become common until around 1500-1600.
>>
>> I just went out on a limb here and I think I hear the branch cracking.
>> I am not a historian and I am very much outside my field of expertise,
>> but let me know your thoughts about my logic here.  I am hoping someone
>> out there that actually does know what they are talking about could shed
>> light on my ideas and set me straight.
>>
>> Tom  
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