[TI] Dolce from Aliminusa-Gloria

Thu Apr 24 21:32:23 CDT 2008

There are connections to other towns and can see them mentioned on the 
documents.  Barone's on my father side of the family is hard to know where 
the main line is.

My g grandfather (father's side is who I am speaking of) was not born in the 
town of Santa Sofia.  The wife and her hundreds of family were from there. 
I couldn't find the g grandfather and a researcher wanted more money to do 
the search.  After hitching up with Laura and learning how to search the 
films I went through the marriages of Santa Sofia.  When I found the 
marriage document right there it stated Santo Barone born in Mangone, 
Cosenza,Italy.  I know have all 9 films on disk, just waiting for me to 
search them.  Still have my family on hold until we can get Termini 
finished.

I went through the indices to see how populated the Barone's are in Mangone 
and there doesn't seem to be the bulk of them so I went after San Demetrio 
where my cousins have visit and there family is located.  I have 7 films out 
of 11 on disk waiting for me to get to them.  Yes some towns do not have a 
lot of films.  Termini has many.  We have been gathering them now for, will 
be 8 years in November .  I think that's right.  We have another 2 more 
years or more to finish Termini.
Rosalie Amison

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gloria Otto" <gotto at ameritech.net>
To: <terminiimerese at comunesofitaly.org>
Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 9:21 PM
Subject: Re: [TI] Dolce from Aliminusa-Gloria

> There must be some connection between Termini and the nearby towns. My 
> great aunt, Lucy Longo, married a Rinella from Campofelice. I noticed also 
> that our family names are in Cefalu also as well as Cerda Mascolino's. 
> Some day it may all make sense. I have yet to look into Aliminusa. I 
> wonder if the Communes of Italy list has people investigating these towns? 
> I have a paternal ggaunt born in Montemaggiore Belsito, PA.  My great 
> grandparents were married in Cerda and all their children were born in 
> Cerda except for one and she was in the middle. Maybe they were just 
> visiting or went there for work. I hope to visit all these towns someday.
>
>
> The mother of the bride certainly has a lot to do but you seem to handle a 
> lot on your plate. If you want something done ask a busy person. Take 
> care.
> Gloria
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: "sreif1956 at comcast.net" <sreif1956 at comcast.net>
> To: terminiimerese at comunesofitaly.org
> Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 4:22:38 PM
> Subject: Re: [TI] Dolce from Aliminusa-Gloria
>
> Hey, Gloria...you are the first person to mention the town Aliminusa.  I 
> have a record of my Gr grandmother's stepfather who was from 
> there...according to his death record.  Laura found it for me when she was 
> going through some of the "newer" death records from the TI cemetery 
> books.  Benedetto Dolce was his name.  I looked at the Trabia film because 
> I had seen some of the Pitti family living there with in-laws and such.  I 
> think I also saw some notation that a grgrgr grandfather Luciano Caruso 
> was from Trabia.  So, I decided to look and saw some of the same surnames 
> and given names in the indexes regarding Caruso and Dolce family.  There 
> must be some connection.  I just take notes and set them aside.  One day 
> they will make some sense, I am sure.
>
> Enjoy the warmer weather here in Chitown.  I just cut the grass and did a 
> little trimming before the rain falls.
>
> Time to get the carpets cleaned....and get a new housecleaner, too. 
> Besides planning this wedding.  Way too much to do.
>
> Sharon
> -------------- Original message ----------------------
> From: Gloria Otto <gotto at ameritech.net>
>> Sharon,
>>
>> Its exciting when you find another clue. If I wasn't so involved with 
>> house
>> repairs, I would love to search other towns. I did try family search but 
>> so far
>> have not come up with anything. you are so fortunate to be able to read 
>> the
>> records. My gggrandmother was Epifania Dolce born 1805 in Cerda. But her 
>> mother
>> was born in Aliminusa, Sicily.  They must have moved around a bit, but I 
>> just
>> can't see that in my family. So far they have all been born in and stayed 
>> in TI
>> unless they immigrated, which is most of them. And of course with the 
>> exception
>> of my paternal grandfather who was born in Cerda. My ggrandmother Maria 
>> Grillo
>> had a daughter born in Montimaggiore near Cerda but the other children 
>> were born
>> in Cerda. Ok. Now you have me thinking. Maybe Natale Mascolino and 
>> Rosaria
>> Scolaro lived in Cerda and that is how perhaps my grandfather Franceso 
>> Gugliuzza
>> was drafted to marry Rosaria's sister Teresa who is my grandmother. After 
>> all he
>> was her third husband
>>  and she had 3 children so I don't imagine the men were beating down her 
>> door
>> asking for her hand in marriage. Her second husband had died 5 years 
>> before my
>> grandfather married her.
>>
>> Gloria
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----
>> From: "sreif1956 at comcast.net" <sreif1956 at comcast.net>
>> To: terminiimerese at comunesofitaly.org
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 8:29:32 AM
>> Subject: Re: [TI] Villaurea, Termini Imerese PA, Italy
>>
>> Gloria,
>>
>> I just looked at a film from Trabia that someone had ordered at the FHC 
>> in
>> Naperville.  It contained many of the surnames from Termini.  I found 
>> clues to
>> my Caurso and Dolce families in there.  These were all 1850s births.  If 
>> the
>> surname and the given name are very similar to what you have already 
>> uncovered,
>> then there is a good chance that there is some relation.  I found this to 
>> be
>> very interesting, and plan to explore a little more.
>>
>> Sharon
>> -------------- Original message ----------------------
>> From: Gloria Otto <gotto at ameritech.net>
>> > Thanks, Sharon. You bring up a good point and I had just begun to 
>> > wonder if
>> that
>> > could be the case. Wouldn't it be great if you could check the vital 
>> > records
>> for
>> > the whole of Sicily in one place.
>> > I'll look into other places in more depth. So far I have just glanced 
>> > at other
>> > towns, coming up empty handed each time.
>> > Gloria
>> >
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message ----
>> > From: "sreif1956 at comcast.net" <sreif1956 at comcast.net>
>> > To: terminiimerese at comunesofitaly.org
>> > Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 8:27:10 AM
>> > Subject: Re: [TI] Villaurea, Termini Imerese PA, Italy
>> >
>> > Gloria,
>> >
>> > Maybe the couple did not live in that area during that time....could 
>> > they have
>> > moved to another town that you have not researched yet?  I would check 
>> > other
>> > towns nearby....do this...go to familysearch.org...do a search for the
>> surnames
>> > that you are looking for and see what towns are listed.  This may give 
>> > you a
>> > clue as to where to look.
>> >
>> > Sharon
>> > -------------- Original message ----------------------
>> > From: Gloria Otto <gotto at ameritech.net>
>> > > Thanks Laura. That seems logical.  An answer leads to more questions. 
>> > > Cerda
>> > is
>> > > about the same distance from Termini but it is separate from Termini. 
>> > > It
>> would
>> > > be interesting to know how or why Villaurea became soto to TI. I am 
>> > > still
>> > > wondering why there are no children listed for Natale Mascolino born
>> December
>> > > 24, 1855 and married October 23, 1879. Father, Salvadore and mother, 
>> > > Teresa
>> > > Geraci.  Are the births for  1879 to 1886 in the Database?  If they 
>> > > are
>> > wouldn't
>> > > you think there would be children from his marriage? Thanks again.
>> > > Gloria
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > ----- Original Message ----
>> > > From: Laura Johnson <rngade57 at madisontelco.com>
>> > > To: terminiimerese at comunesofitaly.org
>> > > Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 9:34:51 PM
>> > > Subject: Re: [TI] Villaurea, Termini Imerese PA, Italy
>> > >
>> > > The records for Villaurea are being transcribed along with the 
>> > > Termini
>> > > Imerese records.  There are many of them in the database already but
>> > > average usually less than 5 records per year for each type of record.
>> > >
>> > > They are notated in the TYPE Column, in the certificate database in 
>> > > the
>> > > following format:
>> > > Nascite - Villaurea
>> > >
>> > > Villaurea is listed with the films of Termini Imerese.  On the title
>> > > page for documents of Villaurea, it states:
>> > >
>> > > Sotto comune di Villaurea
>> > > Comune di Termini Imerese
>> > > Provincia di Palermo
>> > >
>> > > Sotto means underneath or under - which I took to mean under the 
>> > > control
>> > > of Termini Imerese as it is the mayor of Termini Imerese that they 
>> > > are
>> > > reporting the events to.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Gloria Otto wrote:
>> > > > Anyone. Is Villaurea a part of Termini? It is about 24 km from 
>> > > > Termini
>> > Imerese
>> > > yet when I searched for Villaurea,  Villaurea, Termini Imerese PA, 
>> > > Italy is
>> > > returned. And the second part of this question is: Are the Villaurea 
>> > > births
>> > also
>> > > in the database for the years the records were copied together with 
>> > > Termini?
>> I
>> > > have not come across any so far. Thanks.
>> > > > Gloria
>> > > >
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